Posts by Pete Zahut

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Kingdom Hall Sign Generator

by reneeisorym in

jw
friends

let's have fun with the church sign generator!!!.

http://www.churchsigngenerator.com/sign11.php.

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How do you know Satan didn't inspire the Bible?

by Coded Logic in

jws believe that satan knows things about the natural world (like how it was formed).. they also believe that satan can influence events (even fulfill prophecies).. the bible is the source of great confusion and the vast majority of christians (2.2 billion people) believe it but do not have "accurate knowledgetm".. from the jw point of view, wouldn't it be more likely that satan inspired the bible than an all loving god?.

Pete Zahut

Again... all of our opinions and the awareness of the existence Satan is based on what it says about him in the Bible.

If Satan wrote or had an influence on what was written in the Bible, it seems like he would have cast himself in a better light rather than in opposition to God or a deceiver and corrupter of mankind.

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How do you know Satan didn't inspire the Bible?

by Coded Logic in

jws believe that satan knows things about the natural world (like how it was formed).. they also believe that satan can influence events (even fulfill prophecies).. the bible is the source of great confusion and the vast majority of christians (2.2 billion people) believe it but do not have "accurate knowledgetm".. from the jw point of view, wouldn't it be more likely that satan inspired the bible than an all loving god?.

Pete Zahut

Everything we supposedly know about Satan came from the Bible itself, so if he inspired the Bible, what we know about Satan, came from Satan himself and he didn't paint himself in a very good light.

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Bethelite"s wife storms out of headquarters and leaves him...she was forced into Bethel. My story begins....

by Witness 007 in

we were all in our 20's the 1990's pioneers who still hoped the 1914 generation was for real.

jenny {names changed} loved peter who was younger then me and very handsome.

he wanted to go to bethel since he was a kid.

Pete Zahut

Poor girl....she sounds miserable. Hopefully whatever is going wrong between she and her husband, will all come out in the wash.

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BREAKING NEWS!!!

by DATA-DOG in

breaking news from co!!

according to a reliable source, the co in my area says that jws may have been hearing the phrase, "final push" being used.

what sage advice did this shepherd, duke, and "star" of revelation have to say?

Pete Zahut

He also said that cowards won't get everlasting life, at least that's what Jesus says in Revelation. So who would these "cowards" be? Those who become discouraged to the point of being paralyzed, or becoming inactive in the ministry. Those who are too afraid of "Satan's" roars and become doubters. Those who don't stand up for Jeehoober!

Proving once again that JW's real motivation is about saving ones own skin rather than their a real love of their fellow man.

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Drama at the RC

by leaving_quietly in

i sat through part 1 of the drama yesterday.

i thought they did a fairly decent job with it, except for the weird questions asked up front by an ancient guy asking "how do you know jehovah's witnesses have the truth?

" that has absolutely nothing to do with how he was convinced jesus was the messiah.

Pete Zahut

I thought they did a fairly decent job with it, except for the weird questions asked up front by an ancient guy asking "How do you know Jehovah's Witnesses have the truth?" That has absolutely NOTHING to do with how he was convinced Jesus was the Messiah. But, I digress...

Not to mention that the name Jehovah's Witnesses wasn't adopted until the 20th century. Why would someone playing the part of a Bible Character use that name ?

Where was the RC you were at (if it is okay to tell me)?

Tacoma, Washington, USA

P.S I live about a half hour from the Tacoma Dome....you ?

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That’s What Happens When You Leave the Truth.

by John Aquila in

it never failed, when someone got disfellowshipped or left the organization, their life became shambles.

if married, a divorce ensued.

if the person had a great job, the company would lay-off or close.

Pete Zahut

Finally she tells me, “You know, I really don’t care to know anything about the Watchtower. I don’t care if they are a cult, I don’t care if they are the true religion, I just don’t care to know anything about them.

Thankfully she isn't one of the many who leave the organization and are affected by the lingering guilt or unsureness of whether or not JW's really are " The Truth". Learning TTATT is a must for some of us who were dealing with the residual JW way of thinking.

While she is telling me this, I am beginning to see that I have missed out on a lot in life. I was really trapped like a slave and didn’t realized that great possibilities were taken away from us when we become one of Jehovah’ Witness.

Not to mention being robbed of the drive and ambition one has as a young person. When everyone in your little world has you convinced the world is coming to an end at any minute, it pretty much vanquishes the feeling of endless possibilities one has when they are young.

The only bad thing about this experience is that I can’t relate it to all those JWs that made her life miserable. They are still thinking;
That’s What Happens When You Leave the Truth.

Having grown up as a JW and hearing all the X-JW train wreck stories, at first I worried about our life falling apart once we left the Org. in 2008. On the contrary...within months, even though the economy was crashing, I got the best job I ever had (still have it). We paid off our house, my youngest Son got into the University and has a lovely girlfriend and they are both excelling and I have the most peace of mind and calmness, I've ever had. Then the residual JW mindset kicked in from time to time and I'd wonder if maybe Satan was helping me so that I wouldn't return to "The Truth" and go down with "this system". Some JW's that I knew from another congregation came to my door a year of so ago . They didn't know we weren't JW's anymore. I invited them in and we had a nice visit. They were gushing on about how nice the house and garden looked and how good I looked and how happy I seemed and wanted to know what was going on because the last time they saw me I was struggling with severe anxiety. I tried to put them off as long as I could but they kept on asking. I warned them that they weren't going to like my answer but my difficulties with anxiety vanished about a week after I decided to stop being a Witness and I've never been more peaceful and content in my life. This was shocking news to them and the rest of the conversation is a whole topic in itself but after talking to them and listening to their lame rationalizations, I was thankful that I was not a JW anymore.

Anyway...as we all know, JW's only talk about the train wrecks because it helps them rationalize their own doubts.

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Should I hit send button as is? Change? Or just hit delete?

by Lied2NoMore in

so after being deleted because of my comment on her instagram post by my sister-in-law i got a text from her stating she didn't want a debate on instagram and the scripture i posted would not apply to satan, they are worried about me, go see elders, return to jehovah, or else you won't get life, etc etc.... i'm ready to respond with the following reply:.

so....hit send?

make changes?

Pete Zahut

I wouldn't send what you wrote even though pretty much everything you wrote is accurate.

As I've said before....I've found that the less said the better. Limit your response to 2 or three sentences that simply relay your appreciation for her concern and that she shouldn't worry as its only a matter of you having are ever increasingly difficulty with some of the logic or reasoning coming from the platform that doesn't seem to be based in scripture.

Then say no more unless she asks you about something and if she does, and when you answer, be sure not to accuse or be blunt.

Soften everything you say with statements like " It seems like lately" "I could be mistaken but" "Is it me or have you noticed that..." etc.

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This just happened within last 15 mins......

by Lied2NoMore in

i saw an instagram post showing a short clip of a talk being given in one of our southern states.

the talk clip showed speaker making the statement, "jehovah doesn't want anyone to know satans real name, jehovah hates satan so much, he doesn't even want his name mentioned" .

i posted in comments: matt 5:44-48 with the full scripture rendered from niv.

What would be JW's reaction if the governing body, in all seriousness, announced a new JW Pride Day to be celebrated in the congregation every year?

Trying to imagine what would some of their slogans be?

We're Here....We Pioneer.....Get Used To It !
I'm A JW And I Vote ! ...oh wait...never mind.
Your Faith, Without Our Works....Is Dead.
JW's...Every day of the week is Shun Day
JW's...."The TRUTH" Hurts